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How do you want to fly the Italy Campaign

With AI and Humans on both sides (Same as the present campaign)
The Squadron vs AI, with some humans on the AI side

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Offline AKA_Taipan

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Italy Campaign
« on: October 24, 2016, 12:36:28 pm »
Salute Gents,
Please vote and let us know how you would like to fly the next campaign.
I will run this poll for a week as Rel needs to get an answer to this sooner rather than later.

Cheers

Tai


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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2016, 08:26:26 am »
Another question - since the AKA vs  AI (w/a few humans) seems to be winning, I have another question.  Do we want to continue running the campaign in two phases like we have?  I only ask because if we go human vs AI I will probably stack the ground and air units differently than normal (I.e not as balanced).  If we go with two phases it will just mean a little more work to set up more like two separate campaigns.  No biggie, it may mean a little more work at the halfway point, thus a slightly longer break.

S! Rel

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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2016, 11:25:04 am »
I vote for the 2 phases.

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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2016, 06:25:14 pm »
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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2016, 08:01:07 pm »
If we go with the humans vs ai, I have no problem flying the AI side. With my schedule with college and all, I can just hop on and fly. No need in including me into the mission plan cause I have no idea when I will be available to fly on a given day.

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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2016, 12:30:10 pm »
Hmmmm. Interesting thoughts on this. Human vs AI is what I'm supporting, but the thought of several people wanting to be flying on the AI side "to make things interesting" has the potential for the same several to end up on the same side. Typically, the pilots who prefer to fly on the side believed to be the inferior AI side tend to be the pilots who typically score more points in kills than any other pilots, and if the campaign ends up being pilots like Jer, Rel, Tai, sometimes me, Thrud, Grey, etc, etc against the rest of us, it can become problematic. I'm assuming that Count Zero and his partner are also going to b e flying on the AI side.
Just saying,,, let's think this through a bit on how we're going to set this up.

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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2016, 01:16:18 pm »
I'll chime in on this.
If we decide to go human vs AI we can have a meeting on TS to agree on any issues
At this point my thoughts are that we would have limited human intervention on the AI side.  Possibly 4 humans maximum.
If more want to fly/command the AI  then we would draw names.  Persons not selected for a campaign would fly with the AI on the next campaign.
I would expect that the vast majority of AKA will fly with their Squad mates as that is the main reason for flying against the AI in my opinion.
If we do not have a volunteer commander for the AI (which I don't see) I will do it until somebody steps forward.
To be clear we will hash this out on TS if this is the route we go.

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Tai 


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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2016, 02:34:54 pm »
I think Big10 brought up a good point.  If we go with his proposal, we could have the AI side include just those pilots that fall unde the category of "don't fly much" for whatever reason.  Of course someone would still need to do the commander movements, but beyond that there wouldn't be as much pressure on them.  They just fly whenever they can, they're not as vested in the mission-to-mission happenings and can just focus on flying and mucking up the works for the human side.

The human side would be more involved in strategy, tactics, trying to advance, etc.  Also, given that I was planning on stacking things in favor of the AI (reason being I expect the human side to advance given light aerial resistance), we can set a limit of say 3 or 4 maximum humans on the AI team, similar to what Tai suggests.  Given our typical turnouts of ~14-16+ pilots, that would be around 3 or 4 human plus maximum AI vs ~10-13+ human plus minimal AI.
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Something to consider anyway.

S! Rel
« Last Edit: October 26, 2016, 03:02:30 pm by AKA_Relent »

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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2016, 07:01:04 pm »
after we decide on human vs AI, please poll for how many missions total...

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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2016, 08:35:09 am »
after we decide on human vs AI, please poll for how many missions total...

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Our typical standard is 15 missions per phase.  I appreciate going 15 instead of 10 so the effort of creating the campaigns goes a little longer :).  What were your concerns Ram?

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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2016, 04:53:58 pm »
OK Gents,
The votes are in and the poll is closed. 
The next campaign will be Human vs the AI.
The AI side will be given a very small number of humans.
I will take names of volunteers on Sunday night and if I get more than we need I will  pick them from a hat.  Those not selected to fly with the AI will be first up on the next campaign.
The mission length will be extended to 20 missions per phase to take some of the burden off of Rel due to the increased work load in putting these great campaigns together.
If anyone has a major issue with 20 missions please let me know and the reason why.

Thanks for your participation.
Cheers

Tai


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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2016, 11:05:52 pm »
I just need to know which side the Humans will fly on first, allied or axis?  This way I can set it up accordingly with respect to the front lines, number of AI aircraft, etc.

Thanks, S! Rel

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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2016, 11:44:06 am »
Following a flip of a coin the Humans will fly Allied first.
Cheers

Tai
« Last Edit: October 30, 2016, 07:47:26 pm by AKA_Taipan »


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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2016, 01:58:50 pm »
I'll chime in on this.
If we decide to go human vs AI we can have a meeting on TS to agree on any issues
At this point my thoughts are that we would have limited human intervention on the AI side.  Possibly 4 humans maximum.
If more want to fly/command the AI  then we would draw names.  Persons not selected for a campaign would fly with the AI on the next campaign.
I would expect that the vast majority of AKA will fly with their Squad mates as that is the main reason for flying against the AI in my opinion.
If we do not have a volunteer commander for the AI (which I don't see) I will do it until somebody steps forward.
To be clear we will hash this out on TS if this is the route we go.

Salute

Tai
If your stuck for a commander for the AI  I can do it but wont able able to fly much I asked Thrud but he is too busy.

S! J

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Re: Italy Campaign
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2016, 05:18:03 pm »
Thank you Jer.
Will you be able/willing to fly at all?

Cheers

Tai


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