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Offline AKA_Blasto

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Stories from the air...sounds like us.
« on: November 24, 2013, 08:38:07 pm »
S!~ Re-read from Stephen Coonts .."War in the Air: True accts of the 20th Cent. most dramatic Air battles-by the men who fought them." copyright :1996

 During Ww2 New Zealander Alan C. Deere flew spitfires for the RAF and was credited with destroying 22 German aircraft....July 11 1940 BoB...
 ..Red leader. thr are about a doz. 109's flying in loose formation, well behind and slightly above the seaplane."
 "Thanks Johnny . I replied.."that makes the seaplane enemy as far as Im concerned."
 The camouflaged 109' were difficult to pick-up against the grey background of the sea and it was a moment or two before I could locate them.
 "Ok, Yellow Leader, I see them. You take your section and go for the seaplane. We'll try and distract the escort; they don't appear to have seen us as yet."
 I ordered Red Section to follow me and, banking around to get behind the enemy fighters, dived into the attack. The Huns soon spotted us, or perhaps Johnny's section diving towards the seaplane, for as we leveled out behind them, the leader split his formation in two. One half broke upward and to the right in a steep turn while the other half performed a similar manoeuvre ,but to the left. " No fool this leader," I thought to myself.
"That's a smart move." I remembered this manoeuvre later on when the RAF was on the offensive, and used it with telling effect against defending German fighters.
 The Hun leader had timed his break perfectly and he had certainly put us at a disadvantage by splitting his force. There was only one thing to do;break formation and have a go, each pilot for himself. We were outnumbered by about six to one and were more likely to confuse the Hun in this way, thus diverting attention away from Johnny, who had just given the order for his section to attack the seaplane.
 Fastening on to the tail o

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Re: Stories from the air...sounds like us.
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2013, 08:58:59 pm »
..on to the tail of a yellow-nosed Messerschmitt I fought to bring my guns to bear as the range rapidly decreased, and when the wingspan of the enemy aircraft fit snuggly into the range scale bars of my reflector sight, I pressed the fire button. There was an immediate response from my eight Brownings, which, to the accompaniment of a slight bucketing from my aircraft, spat a stream of lethal lead target-wards. "Got you", I muttered to myself as the small dancing flames of exploding "DeWilde" bullets spattered along the Messerschmitt's fuselage. My exultation was short lived. Before I could fire another burst two 109's wheeled in behind me. I broke hard into the attack pulling my Spitfire into a climbing, spiraling turn as I did so, a manoeuvre I had discovered in previous combat with 109's to be particularly effective. And it was no less effective now; the Messerschmitts literally  " fell out of the sky" as they stalled in an attempt to follow me.
 I soon found another target. About three thousand yards directly ahead of me, and at the same level, a Hun was just completing a turn preparatory to reentering the fray. He aw me almost immediately and rolled out of his turn towards me so that a head-on attack became inevitable. Using both hands on the control column to steady the aircraft and thus keep my aim stead, I peered through the reflector sight at the rapidly closing enemy aircraft. We opened fire together, and immediately a hail of lead thudded into my Spitfire. etc etc etc
S!~ it pertains to Cliffs-more to come. Blasto   8)

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Re: Stories from the air...sounds like us.
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 05:32:26 pm »
Good stuff Blasto,

this manoeuvre preformed in CLOD will get you killed

"I broke hard into the attack pulling my Spitfire into a climbing, spiralling turn as I did so, a manoeuvre I had discovered in previous combat with 109's to be particularly effective. And it was no less effective now; the Messerschmitt's literally  " fell out of the sky" as they stalled in an attempt to follow me."

these bastards just don't loose energy  ::)

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Re: Stories from the air...sounds like us.
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2013, 11:12:52 pm »
Hey Jericho... I have to disagree.  What is important is to have an equal energy state with the 109 before using this maneuver.  Then, and only then, spiral climb to the right.  109's climb better to the left, Spits to the right.

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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 03:41:01 am »
I reckon a test should be conducted to prove this tactic is valid IN GAME

I actually use this tactic as long as I have superior speed after a height advantage but never pulled off as defensive manoeuvre under threat.

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