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p40...
« on: March 27, 2015, 11:32:21 am »

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Re: p40...
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2015, 02:11:07 pm »
So, pray tell, why aren't you in the air now??
 ???

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Re: p40...
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2015, 04:16:23 pm »
Wow ...Nice ...can't wait  8)
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Re: p40...
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2015, 05:07:46 am »
So, pray tell, why aren't you in the air now??
 ???

Gos

Well... top 8 reasons Recon doesn't fly anymore...

8. attendance for AKA was down, not many guys flying.  Flying older IL2 1946 with another squadron is/was the priority of AKA.
7. our TS was nearly empty - only teamwork was flying on ATAG - when I flew they had guys online working together - whereas to fly with AKA you often sit in a TS channel alone, hoping one guy would show up - who wouldn't ever goto ATAG comms...
6. only interest of group was day time flying weekend war - which is nearly impossible for me to do.
5. guys just flying to get kills without flying mission objectives as a team* (ie. ATAG - other groups on their comms try to win missions, we just try to survive and get kills).  Tended not to fly together, wait to take off together, etc...
4. lack of interest in bombing - (I was only bomber who ever flew regularly, got tired of suicide missions* - only way to get 99% of objectives is to bomb them)
3. best training I could get was dedicated Luftwaffe pilots who liked flying together with tactics
2. despite much variety in AC on the Luftwaffe side, we seem to only ever want to be 'red' side - I like flying 109 and the cool German bombers, but I was only one that wanted to do it.  So I became odd man out.  ie. what does an AKA'er do if he wants to fly Blue - join another squadron ?? (wasn't interested but was tempted)
1. watching Netflix with the wife became more exciting that flying alone...

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Re: p40...
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2015, 08:08:15 am »
Those are definitely valid concerns. We're hoping Wednesdays will open another campaign option in Storm of War for CoD. I've been hoping someone would show to fly an occasional bomber sortie in CoD sometime. If you see me online, grab me up and teach me some tactics with it. If you want to fly Sturmovik in bombers, now is the time and I'm sure that there will be at least one guy to accompany you on high altitude strikes. Just keep in mind that you're an important member of the squad and your company is always appreciated, especially when we're outnumbered and getting our arses kicked.
I definitely understand the need to snuggle with the significant other, though. Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts on these issues. They are worth further consideration by the entire squadron.
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Re: p40...
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2015, 09:15:59 am »
S! Well.... I guess Recons post is directed towards myself,as I don't use Atags comms,as far as teamwork ive been flying for 20 years online and ALWAYS have preached wingman tactics its true to a certain sense that most red pilots flying Atag don't do many mission objectives that in part is due to Atag itself as it is just a low alt furball sandbox server which btw I rarely fly on because of that, if I fly now I usually fly the SOW server as its far more goal/team tactics oriented server mission objective based,now without naming me exclusively being accused of all the things wrong with AKA Wardog probs conerning COD maybe I should be the one looking to join another group!!!

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Re: p40...
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2015, 10:31:08 am »
I don't fly much of anything anymore mostly because other things get in the way.  When I have shown up there is almost always someone from AKA on a server and on comms and they do tend to form up and fly as a unit.  I much prefer to fly on a comms channel with 4-6 pilots rather than with 20 or so.

I just prefer to fly Red, I don't know why I just always have, and the only way I can successfully can bomb flying Red is low level.

If there was a campaign running Wednesday evening I would make an effort to show up.

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Re: p40...
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2015, 11:07:18 am »
S! Well.... I guess Recons post is directed towards myself,as I don't use Atags comms,as far as teamwork ive been flying for 20 years online and ALWAYS have preached wingman tactics its true to a certain sense that most red pilots flying Atag don't do many mission objectives that in part is due to Atag itself as it is just a low alt furball sandbox server which btw I rarely fly on because of that, if I fly now I usually fly the SOW server as its far more goal/team tactics oriented server mission objective based,now without naming me exclusively being accused of all the things wrong with AKA Wardog probs conerning COD maybe I should be the one looking to join another group!!!

Nobody should be looking to join other squadrons, period! There's no reason for that. When we're flying on others' servers, our uniform stands out and actually draws others to our squadron. We have a pretty good rep on the servers and all of the guys who fly there (whether SOW or ATAG) do a nice job of promoting the squadron. There's no rule that we all have to always fly on the same side, except I think SOW requires one to join a squad, but I could be wrong about that. Maybe someone who is more versed on the rules of SOW can enlighten us.
I really like SOW because it's always running and every flight there contributes to the squadron scores and equipment available. Plus, being assigned to a regular base really adds to the ability to navigate on the map easier.

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Re: p40...
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2015, 12:52:41 pm »
S! Well.... I guess Recons post is directed towards myself,as I don't use Atags comms,as far as teamwork ive been flying for 20 years online and ALWAYS have preached wingman tactics its true to a certain sense that most red pilots flying Atag don't do many mission objectives that in part is due to Atag itself as it is just a low alt furball sandbox server which btw I rarely fly on because of that, if I fly now I usually fly the SOW server as its far more goal/team tactics oriented server mission objective based,now without naming me exclusively being accused of all the things wrong with AKA Wardog probs conerning COD maybe I should be the one looking to join another group!!!

dang, Wiley, I wasn't talking you or any other particular person, sorry if it came out that way.  You've been very giving of your knowledge and time, so don't take my comments personally.   Heck, without your help I wouldn't have lasted more than 3 days with CoD.  By the time I finally quit flying... as a 'squadron' we don't fly much together (in COD), we don't train (or weren't), we weren't trying to accomplish missions, and our attendance was spotty at best, and I'm the only one interested in flying Blue.   

I haven't flown in awhile, so I don't know what it's like on ATAG today. 

I get schooled by the expert pilots all the time online and I'm not very good, so I guess I just need more help than others.  Everytime I fly red, I'm getting my butt kicked because I don't know how to fight an enemy who can control the fight so well.

But I do know for sure that there just wasn't anyone around that was flying when I stopped, and flying alone is too boring.  Then I tried 109's so I could at least get up higher and try to BnZ - because I'm just not very good turn fighter. 

Wiley, I'd be more than happy to fly with you - but seriously, when I stopped flying, attendance was down to me seeing *maybe* one guy a week for an hour.

If I could fine one person who wanted to team up all the time and really work together I'd start flying again and put the effort in.   Maybe again it's because I'm not very good and need help  :)

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Re: p40...
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2015, 12:55:22 pm »
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I really like SOW because it's always running and every flight there contributes to the squadron scores and equipment available. Plus, being assigned to a regular base really adds to the ability to navigate on the map easier.

Fill me in on the details - when you say 'always running' is it like ATAG now - or just certain times ?  Is there anyone there during EST ?

When do you fly ?

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Re: p40...
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2015, 01:45:44 pm »
S! Recon Id be more than happy to fly with you, it seems that our attendance is always spotty during the week ,some week nights/weeks there are 4-6 of us flying regular other nights/weeks theres no AKAers flying,so usually I will fly the SOW server as there are always at least AI to practice with and usually we always need a few AC ferried for the SOW Campaigns that we participate in. Yes Gos  you register with AKA Squadron on SOW to enable use of our assigned exclusive AF (Rochester is AKA only Airfield) but that doesn't stop anyone from flying Blue you would just use an "open" AF from the axis side same way that non squad oriented pilots can fly from allied "open" Airfields. but you would need to alter you in game Nickname for instance (AKA_Wiley Blue) The SOW server has in rotation something on the order of 10+ missions running 24/7 except during the Campaign events,another imo poor point of atag is there are no new missions in rotation the targets are all well known from years in rotation whereas SOW missions are much more dynamic with everything from a simple ferry sortie to keep our AC numbers up for Campaign Events to a sortie of recon of potential targets and bomber/fighter intercepts using radar and anything in between,During our Campaign Events we have several people that do mission command (TopHat Control) much as in RL BOB they read radar plots and vector groups in for intercept as well as try to keep squads up to speed as to what the germans are up to,the Axis Groups flying in SOW are crafty foes and some of the best virtual pilots/Squads around, they do send out spoof raids to try to throw Allies off their tracks to allow the main raid in without to much difficulty altho most raids are very heavily escorted so its sometimes very tough to get through to the bombers,SOW is very similar to what FS was back in its high point,and usually fills up very quickly with squads waiting there turn to get in.   

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Re: p40...
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2015, 02:00:13 pm »
Wiley, sounds good - I'll get online... might have to be patience with me as I haven't flown in quite awhile

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Re: p40...
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2015, 02:40:56 pm »
I fly Blue on ATAG on a regular basis.  I recommend everyone fly Blue at least once in a while so you can be a better Red pilot at least (you have a better understanding of planes abilities if you fly them all) but also when Stecher gets Ghost skies going you have to fly both sides just like the AKA campaign.

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